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From: John Stone (johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu)
Date: Wed Mar 06 2019 - 23:43:53 CST

Carlos,
  Thanks for the followup for posterity, that's great to hear.

Best regards,
  John Stone
  vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu

On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:25:49PM -0500, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> just to close this out and put the solution in the archives, I updated my
> GPU to a Quadro M4000 since it is supported in the newer drivers and my
> previous FX 5800 was not. This has fixed the problem, and stereo in VMD
> with the Nvidia 3DVision shutter glasses works fine with Windows 10.
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:32 AM Carlos Simmerling
> <[1]carlos.simmerling_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> I have the Nvidia LCD glasses with external emitter connected to the
> quadro, and 2 Benq XL2720T LCD panels that are 3D vision capable.
> thanks!
> Carlos
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:22 AM John Stone <[2]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Carlos,
> Â I completely understand wanting to have some proof that Windows 10
> will
> actually work right with a current GPU before spending $$$$ on one.Â
> I'm hoping
> someone can describe their (hopefully very recent) experience with
> Windows 10
> and the NVIDIA stereoscopic display hardware. If nobody else
> replies, then I will
> have to see if I can come up with a Windows 10 test machine I can put
> a recent
> Quadro into and test it myself, but I'm juggling a lot of balls
> presently so it may
> take me a while to have a chance to do this. Just out of curiosity,
> what kind
> of display hardware are you using? Is this one of the Acer 3-D LCD
> panels, or do you
> have one of the external NVIDIA emitter boxes w/ glasses, and a
> particular
> stereo-capable LCD panel? We've got some of the Acer displays here,
> so that's
> probably what I would have to test with.
>
> Best,
> Â John Stone
> Â [3]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:20:02AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling wrote:
> >Â Â thanks John,
> >Â Â Reading posts from a search it looks like there might be some
> general
> >Â Â issues with OpenGL stereo support in Windows 10, so I hesitate
> to buy a
> >Â Â newer card and have the same problem. I'll try what you suggest
> and roll
> >Â Â back my driver, but I can't go back from WIndows 10
> unfortunately.
> >Â Â Does anyone have Nvidia 3D Vision working under windows 10?
> >Â Â thanks
> >Â Â Carlos
> >Â Â On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 11:10 AM John Stone
> <[1][4]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >
> >Â Â Â Hi Carlos,
> >Â Â Â Ä*Â This strikes me as a driver bug.Ä*
> >Â Â Â The OpenGL quad-buffered stereo code in VMD hasn't changed
> in quite a
> >Â Â Â while, and it
> >Â Â Â had been working fine on Linux and Windows in all of the
> previous
> >Â Â Â testing I've done.
> >
> >Â Â Â The NVIDIA 3D vision test programs are written using Direct
> X rather
> >Â Â Â than OpenGL,
> >Â Â Â so the fact that they work okay means that at least the
> hardware is
> >Â Â Â working,
> >Â Â Â but I think that the OpenGL part of the driver stack must
> not be working
> >Â Â Â correctly.Ä*
> >
> >Â Â Â The Quadro FX 5800 is now a very old GPU (GT200
> architecture) that is no
> >Â Â Â longer
> >Â Â Â supported by the current NVIDIA drivers, which I'm guessing
> you're
> >Â Â Â already keenly aware
> >Â Â Â of.Ä*Â This makes our options somewhat limited and
> cumbersome.Ä*Â My
> >Â Â Â suggestion would be
> >Â Â Â to cycle through the last few driver versions that support
> >Â Â Â GT200-architecture GPUs
> >Â Â Â in general, or the FX 5800 explicitly, and see if you can
> find one that
> >Â Â Â works correctly.
> >Â Â Â This isn't a fun process, but if you want to keep using that
> card, that
> >Â Â Â is likely
> >Â Â Â the best option.Ä*
> >
> >Â Â Â Perhaps if we're lucky, another Windows user with
> GT200-based GPUs can
> >Â Â Â comment about
> >Â Â Â what driver versions work for them on Windows 10 w/
> stereoscopic
> >Â Â Â displays.Ä*
> >Â Â Â Let's see if anyone else can comment on their recent
> experiences here.
> >
> >Â Â Â Best,
> >Â Â Â Ä*Â John Stone
> >Â Â Â Ä*Â [2][5]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >
> >Â Â Â On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 09:26:35AM -0400, Carlos Simmerling
> wrote:
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â hi all, I have an Nvidia 3D vision setup
> including the LCD
> >Â Â Â shutter
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â glasses, 3D vision monitor, emitter and quadro
> card. It should
> >Â Â Â all work
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â fine with VMD, and the Nvidia 3D setup wizard
> tests do work fine
> >Â Â Â for me.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â This also used to work in VMD when I used windows
> 7 on this PC.
> >Â Â Â Now,
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â however, when I select quad buffered stereo in
> VMD I get only a
> >Â Â Â single
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â image (very slightly shifted from the image with
> stereo off).Ä**Ä*
> >Â Â Â My quadro
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â fx 5800 drivers are up to date (342.01). VMD
> seems to recognize
> >Â Â Â the setup
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â (see below). Any suggestions?Ä**
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â thanks!
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â ) VMD for WIN32, version 1.9.3 (November 30,
> 2016)
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**
> [1][3][6]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Email questions and bug reports toÄ**
> [2][4][7]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Please include this reference in published
> work using VMD:
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**Ä*Â Ä**Ä*Â Humphrey, W., Dalke, A. and
> Schulten, K., `VMD -
> >Â Â Â Visual
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**Ä*Â Ä**Ä*Â Molecular Dynamics', J.
> Molec. Graphics 1996,
> >Â Â Â 14.1, 33-38.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)
> >Â Â Â
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Multithreading available, 8 CPUs detected.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Free system memory: 2047MB (100%)
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) OpenGL renderer: Quadro FX 5800/PCIe/SSE2
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**Ä*Â Ä** Features: STENCIL STEREO MDE CVA
> MTX NPOT PP PS
> >Â Â Â GLSL(OVFG)
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**Ä*Â Ä** Full GLSL rendering mode is
> available.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info)Ä**Ä*Â Ä** Textures: 2-D (8192x8192), 3-D
> (2048x2048x2048),
> >Â Â Â Multitexture
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â (4)
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Spaceball driver not installed.Ä**Ä*Â
> Spaceball interface
> >Â Â Â disabled.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) No joysticks found.Ä**Ä*Â Joystick
> interface disabled.
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) Dynamically loaded 75 plugins in directory:
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Info) C:/Program Files (x86)/University of
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Illinois/VMD/plugins/WIN32/molfile
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â > References
> >Â Â Â >
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â Visible links
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â 1. [5][8]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â Â >Ä*Â Ä*Â 2. mailto:[6][9]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >
> >Â Â Â --
> >Â Â Â NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> >Â Â Â Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> >Â Â Â University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> >Â Â Â [7][10]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/Ä*Â Ä*Â Ä*Â Ä*Â
> Ä*Â Ä* Phone: 217-244-3349
> >Â Â Â [8][11]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/Ä*Â Ä*Â Ä*
> >
> > References
> >
> >Â Â Visible links
> >Â Â 1. mailto:[12]johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 2. mailto:[13]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 3. [14]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 4. mailto:[15]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 5. [16]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> >Â Â 6. mailto:[17]vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> >Â Â 7. [18]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> >Â Â 8. [19]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
>
> --
> NIH Center for Macromolecular Modeling and Bioinformatics
> Beckman Institute for Advanced Science and Technology
> University of Illinois, 405 N. Mathews Ave, Urbana, IL 61801
> [20]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/Â Â Â Â Â Â Phone: 217-244-3349
> [21]http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/Â Â Â
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:carlos.simmerling_at_gmail.com
> 2. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 3. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 4. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 5. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 6. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 7. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 8. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 9. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 10. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/%C4%80
> 11. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/%C4%80
> 12. mailto:johns_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 13. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 14. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 15. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 16. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 17. mailto:vmd_at_ks.uiuc.edu
> 18. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 19. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/
> 20. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/~johns/
> 21. http://www.ks.uiuc.edu/Research/vmd/ 

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